Hey everyone, you are watching the Jacobin Show. I'm your host Jen Pan. We're of course

here every Wednesday at 6 p.m. Eastern. So if you're tuning in for the first time, thank

you for watching. If you've been here before, good to see you as always. Real quick, I have

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gets a plaque in the mail. So let's get killed that plaque. So for today's show, we are

going to be joined by Lee Phillips a little later. He is a great journalist who writes on

science and climate. He's a contributor to Jacobin. And in particular, he wrote a piece

recently called Blue Collar's Green Jobs, which I think is a very insightful and sobering

look at why the ostensibly pro labor, pro working class climate movement is still sort

of at odds with large segments of the labor movement itself, namely the building trades,

which are vast and pretty powerful. And you know, you guys might recall that when the

Green New Deal was first released by Senator Ed Markey and AOC, the AFL CIO and specifically

Richard Trumpka actually came out against the Green New Deal. So we're going to look into

all of those issues. Lee makes what I think is a very compelling case that this kind of

disjunct or this ongoing tension is not the result of, you know, certain unions, just

reactionary or conservative views on climate. I agree with him. And we're going to be diving

into that a little more later. For my part, I'm going to be making some comments on the

good old American neoliberal tradition of socialism for the rich, which we saw a lot of

during the pandemic. So I'm going to be looking at some of those policies and kind of unpacking

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