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Jacobin Show: The Professional-Managerial Class w/ Catherine Liu

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🗓️ 28 January 2021

⏱️ 106 minutes

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Summary

Every Wednesday at 6 PM ET, Jen Pan, Ariella Thornhill, and Paul Prescod host a new episode of The Jacobin Show, offering socialist perspectives on class and capitalism in the twenty-first century, the failures of liberalism, and the prospects of rebuilding a left labor movement in the US. This is the audio version of the broadcast on January 27, 2021.

What is the professional-managerial class and how is it standing in the way of economic redistribution? Catherine Liu explains how this group of elite workers has come to serve capitalism while insisting on their own virtue.

Catherine Liu is professor of film and media studies at the University of California, Irvine and the author of Virtue Hoarders: The Case against the Professional Managerial Class: https://www.upress.umn.edu/book-divis...

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0:00.0

Hey everyone, Welcome back to the Jacobin show. I'm Jen Pan and I'm here today with

0:18.0

Ariella Thornhill. Ariella, what's new? Hey guys, not much reading a lot about the PMC. Everyone's favorite class.

0:28.0

Yep. I feel like before we start I feel like I should mention I don't know if any of you guys recognize that I am in the Jacobin office right now and that is because the internet at my apartment has been down all afternoon, which I mentioned because I thought that I had signed up for the

0:46.3

PMC internet. Like I did research on the various internet service providers and I was like, I think this is the one that all of the like

0:53.9

upwardly mobile professionals use so I don't know I don't know off to a great start

0:58.0

already you shouldn't have crossed them they heard about I know and they shut

1:01.4

you down. Right, exactly.

1:04.0

So on the subject of the PMC, what is the PMC?

1:09.0

I feel like this is a term that we have started to hear more and more of. I think it became,

1:14.8

especially on the left, it became kind of a like buzzword that people would say,

1:19.6

especially I think when talking about the differences between you know Elizabeth Warren and her

1:25.1

supporters and then of course Bernie Sanders supporters. So Ariella did you were you

1:30.3

familiar with this term or like did you know of this term before it kind of came into

1:34.0

vogue? Yeah I'd heard about it a little bit and then I think a year and a half ago I was gifted

1:44.7

the PMC Bible. That book is so good.

1:46.2

It's very good.

1:47.3

It was out of print for like 30 years or something.

1:49.3

Yeah, this is the new one.

1:50.4

So now we've got this beautiful cover. What's on the cover?

1:53.4

A guy looking into a mirror?

1:55.4

Imagining that he is turning into a homeless man.

1:59.4

Oh, no.

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