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Jacobin Show: How Should the Left Think About Crime? w/ Adaner Usmani

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🗓️ 29 April 2021

⏱️ 94 minutes

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Summary

Every Wednesday at 6 PM ET, Jen Pan, Ariella Thornhill, and Paul Prescod host a new episode of The Jacobin Show, offering socialist perspectives on class and capitalism in the twenty-first century, the failures of liberalism, and the prospects of rebuilding a left labor movement in the US. This is the episode from April 28, 2021.

Adaner Usmani, assistant professor of sociology and social studies at Harvard University, joins us to discuss the current wave of violent crime in the US, the law-and-order backlashes of prior decades, and the origins of mass incarceration.

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0:00.0

Hey and welcome back to the Jack of In Show.

0:20.4

I'm Jen Pan and I'm here with Aurela Thornehill, Aurela, how's it going?

0:24.8

Good!

0:25.8

Yeah, how are you, Jen?

0:27.2

I'm good.

0:28.2

I'm good.

0:29.2

I'm, like, 80 degrees in New York today, which comes after, like, a weird cold spell, but

0:35.7

I'm definitely excited for today's show.

0:38.0

We, of course, have Adon or Usmani coming on a little later to talk about his catalyst

0:42.5

essay, the economic origins of mass incarceration.

0:46.3

He's also going to talk about, you know, some of the developments of the last year in regards

0:50.6

to policing and incarceration and the fight to roll back those things.

0:57.0

But I guess just to kind of start off, you know, Aurela, you and I, you know, prior to

1:03.0

the show had been talking about just the problem of crime in general.

1:07.6

I feel like this is not an issue that often is sort of talked about on the left, precisely

1:13.9

because crime and criminals have so often in the past been used as a racist dog whistle

1:20.3

by the right and by many liberals as well.

1:24.0

Now that said, I do want to mention, you know, during the pandemic in 2020, we did see in

1:30.2

the US an increase in violent, in violent crime, a pretty significant increase.

1:35.0

So murders in particular, shot up, I think, around 25% across the country last year, and

1:42.1

are now at a level that we really haven't seen since the 90s.

1:47.3

We've also seen an increase in other sorts of violent crime, including aggravated assaults,

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