Jacobin Show: How Democrats Lost Rural America w/ Anthony Flaccavento
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🗓️ 24 March 2022
⏱️ 67 minutes
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Anthony Flaccavento, Virginia-based farmer, author, and co-founder of the Rural Urban Bridge Initiative, joins the Jacobin Show to discuss rural America—and why the Democrats lose so consistently in rural elections. Plus: Jacobin editor Seth Ackerman on inflation, the fed raising interest rates, and what this all means for the economy.
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The Jacobin Show, hosted by Jen Pan, offers socialist perspectives on class and capitalism in the twenty-first century, the failures of liberalism, and the prospects of rebuilding a left labor movement in the US. This is the podcast version of the show from March 23, 2022.
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| 0:00.0 | Music |
| 0:28.4 | Welcome back to the Jacobin Show. I'm your host, Jen Pan. We are of course here every Wednesday |
| 0:34.4 | at 6 p.m. Eastern. Today's show is all about rural America and why the Democrats consistently |
| 0:41.8 | lose so badly in rural elections. My guest today on that subject is Anthony Flacaveno. He is the |
| 0:48.0 | co-founder of a new group called the Rural Urban Bridge Initiative. He's also a farmer and author |
| 0:53.5 | based in rural Virginia and he's run for office a few times in that state. So he'll be speaking all |
| 0:59.9 | about the causes and consequences of the rural urban divide and what exactly it is that progressives |
| 1:06.0 | and leftists need to do to start winning elections in these rural areas. So for my own part, |
| 1:12.8 | I'll also be making a few comments about why even though the left to date is doing relatively |
| 1:19.3 | well in a few major cities, we actually really need to start winning constituencies outside of |
| 1:24.7 | cities, not just because, you know, it's morally and ethically right to do that, but also because |
| 1:30.5 | there are really profound strategic reasons. So definitely stay tuned for all of that. But first, |
| 1:36.9 | I will be talking to Jacobin editor Seth Aparman about inflation, the Fed raising interest rates, |
| 1:42.8 | and what this is all going to mean for the economy. So let's get to it. All right, so we are now |
| 1:47.9 | joined by Seth Aparman, Jacobin's executive editor, Seth Good to see you. Good to see you too, Jen. |
| 1:53.6 | As always. So we're here to talk about inflation and the Fed. I should mention you have a series of |
| 1:59.1 | pieces in Jacobin and also on your substack newsletter that I think kind of go against the |
| 2:04.9 | received wisdom on inflation. And one of your recent points was that nobody really ever stops to |
| 2:10.8 | ask why inflation is bad. So I'll go ahead and take the bait. Why is inflation bad? And |
| 2:17.4 | maybe specifically, I feel like the underlying assumption is when you have inflation, prices go up |
| 2:23.2 | and, you know, if people's wages are not also going up or if they don't rise as quickly, then obviously |
| 2:29.2 | it costs more to buy goods and services. And that seems bad. So what does that miss or what does |
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