Jacobin Radio: Debate Debriefing w/ Robert Brenner & Marc Cooper

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🗓️ 2 July 2024

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Journalist Marc Cooper and historian Robert Brenner join Suzi in conversation following the painful first presidential debate held on June 27. Most of the immediate post mortems are panicked responses and calls for Biden to step out of the race. We go beneath the surface to parse the issues discussed or omitted, and ask what they think is now possible in the remaining months before the election. We also look at the way CNN handled, or mishandled, the debate itself, with no attempt to fact check or challenge falsehoods. Finally we look at the danger of a possible second Trump term for the US and the world.

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0:00.0	Welcome to Jacobin Radio. I'm your host, Susie Wiseman. On today's show, we're going to look back at the painful first presidential debate held on June 27th and then look forward at what's next and what's possible.
0:23.0	Veteran journalist Mark Cooper and historian Robert Brenner joined me in conversation
0:28.0	to parse the issues discussed or omitted,
0:30.0	and I'm going to ask them what they think is now possible in the remaining months
0:34.3	before the election. All this whenie Wiseman. Mark Cooper is a veteran journalist as I I said. He's a former staff writer at the nation.
0:56.0	He's the retired USC journalism professor and author of several books and has also been a frequent guest right here and he now writes a must read
1:06.3	newsletter called the Coop scoop and that's the Coop scoop dot sub-St I'm going to say that one more time because I think everybody
1:16.1	should look at it and subscribe to it. It's the coop scoop dot substat.com. And Robert Brenner is also joining us. He is an editor of
1:25.8	against the current and New Left Review, Professor Emeritus of history, and he's the
1:31.1	director of the Center for Social Theory and Comparative History at
1:34.4	UCLA, author of several books including, well I won't go through all the books
1:39.3	because we've done it many times before, but pertinent to our subject, Robert Brenner and
1:45.3	Dylan Riley wrote seven theses on American politics in New Left Review 138,
1:50.9	and that's an analysis of American politics post-midterms, so two years ago
1:55.8	almost that has generated a stirring debate across the pages of several journals on
2:01.3	concepts of things like political capitalism and more and
2:05.4	disclosure Robert Brenner is also the executive producer of this program and
2:10.4	for those of you listening we're talking the day after. So by the time you hear this, there could be a lot more that's happened, but I think it's well worth taking this moment to talk about what we heard last night and what we saw
2:25.1	last night and the debate caused panic among Democrats and I wanted to just say
2:30.9	because it also caused panic around the world and I regularly read things
2:36.4	from Russia and I found on the Russian left telegram channel this.
2:41.5	President Biden failed to prove to the country his cognitive competence.
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