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Broken Record with Rick Rubin, Malcolm Gladwell, Bruce Headlam and Justin Richmond

Jacob Collier

Broken Record with Rick Rubin, Malcolm Gladwell, Bruce Headlam and Justin Richmond

Pushkin Industries

Music, Society & Culture

4.54.3K Ratings

🗓️ 27 January 2026

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

Jacob Collier has built a remarkable career as a multi-instrumentalist and arranger known for his complex harmonic approach and collaborative spirit. He first gained attention as a teenager posting multi-track videos from his childhood bedroom in North London. In 2013, his cover of Stevie Wonder's "Don't You Worry 'Bout a Thing" caught the eye of Quincy Jones, who began mentoring him and helped launch his career.

Over the past seven years, Jacob’s released four albums in his Djesse series—ambitious, wide-ranging projects featuring collaborations with artists ranging from Coldplay to Tori Amos. He's won multiple Grammy Awards and developed a following through his inventive live performances and his willingness to share his deep knowledge of music theory with fans online.

Now, Jacob has made a dramatic shift with his new album, The Light for Days. Recorded in just four days using only a custom five-string guitar, it's a stripped-down, intimate collection that explores folk, classical, and jazz influences with notable restraint.

On today's episode, Bruce Headlam talks to Jacob Collier about why he decided to limit himself to a single instrument after years of layered, maximalist production. He discusses the custom five-string guitar built for him by Taylor's master luthier Andy Powers and how its unique tuning opened up new harmonic possibilities. He also talks about working with Joni Mitchell, the influence of artists like John Martyn and Brian Wilson, and how growing up singing Bach chorales with his family shaped his approach to harmony. And he performs several songs from the new album live in the studio.

You can hear a playlist of some of our favorite songs from Jacob Collier HERE.

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0:00.0

Pushkin.

0:10.8

Jacob Collier has built a remarkable career as a multi-instrumentalist and arranger known for his complex harmonic approach and collaborative spirit.

0:19.8

He first gained attention as a teenager posting multi-track videos from his childhood bedroom

0:24.1

in North London. In 2013, his cover of Stevie Wonder's Don't You Worry About a Thing,

0:29.1

caught the eye of The Quincy Jones, who began mentoring him and helped launch his career.

0:35.0

Over the past seven years, Jacobs released four albums in his Jesse series,

0:39.8

ambitious, wide-ranging projects featuring collaborations with artists ranging from Tori Amos to

0:45.0

Coldplay. He's won multiple Grammy Awards and developed a following through his inventive

0:50.2

live performances and his willingness to share his deep knowledge of music theory with fans online.

0:56.6

Now, Jacob has made a dramatic shift with his new album, The Light for Days.

1:01.2

Recorded in just four days using only a custom five-string guitar,

1:04.7

it's a stripped-down intimate collection that explores folk, classical, and jazz influences

1:09.6

with notable restraint.

1:12.3

On today's episode, Bruce Hedlam talks to Jacob Collier about why he decided to limit himself

1:17.0

to a single instrument after years of layered maximalist production.

1:22.1

He discusses the custom five-string guitar built for him by Taylor's Master Luthier, Andy Powers,

1:27.4

and how its unique

1:28.2

tuning opened up new harmonic possibilities. He also talks about working with Johnny Mitchell,

1:33.9

the influence of artists like John Martin and Brian Wilson, and how growing up singing Bach

1:38.0

Keralds with his family shaped his approach to harmony. And he performed several songs from

1:42.8

the new album, live in the studio.

1:47.0

This is Broken Record. Real musicians, real conversations.

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