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Broken Record with Rick Rubin, Malcolm Gladwell, Bruce Headlam and Justin Richmond

Don Was

Broken Record with Rick Rubin, Malcolm Gladwell, Bruce Headlam and Justin Richmond

Pushkin Industries

Music, Society & Culture

4.54.3K Ratings

🗓️ 20 January 2026

⏱️ 83 minutes

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Summary

Don Was has had a remarkable career moving between different corners of the music world. In the 1980s, he fronted the eclectic band Was (Not Was), mixing funk, rock, and pop in unexpected ways. As a producer, he's helped shape landmark albums for artists like the B-52's and Bonnie Raitt, and worked with Bob Dylan and become a regular producer for the Rolling Stones. For the past decade, Don has led Blue Note Records as its president, bringing new energy to the storied jazz label.

Now, Don has released his own album, Groove in the Face of Adversity, a tribute to Detroit and the music that came out of the city where he grew up.

On today's episode, Justin Richmond talks to Don Was about his wide-ranging career and why his new album is his first under his name. Don also talks about how working with musical heroes like Willie Nelson, Leonard Cohen, and Brian Wilson in the '90s initially shut down his own creative ambitions. And he reflects on his time at Blue Note and how his experience as a touring artist himself allows him to relate to the label's roster in a completely different way.

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0:00.0

Pushkin.

0:07.0

Dear friend of the show, Don Was, has had a remarkable career moving between different corners of the music world.

0:16.0

In the 1980s, he fronted the eclectic band Was Not Was, mixing funk, rock, and pop in unexpected ways.

0:23.4

As a producer, he's helped shape landmark albums for artists like the B-52s and Bonnie Raid.

0:28.2

Her album, Luck of the Draw, which she produced, featured the hit Something to Talk About,

0:31.7

and marked a major turning point in her career.

0:34.7

Over the years, he's worked with Bob Dylan and become a regular producer for the

0:37.7

Rolling Stones. For the past decade, Don has led Blue Note Records, as its president bringing new

0:43.4

energy to the story jazz label. And he's also just released his own album, Groove in the Face of

0:48.8

Adversity, a tribute to Detroit and the music that came out of the city where he grew up. On today's episode, I talked to

0:55.8

Don Was about his wide-ranging career and why his new album is his first under his name. He also

1:01.9

talks about how working with musical heroes like Willie Nelson, Leonard Cohen, and Brian Wilson

1:06.1

in the 90s initially shut down his own creative ambitions. N reflects on his time at Blue Note

1:11.6

and now his experience as a touring artist himself

1:13.9

now allows him to relate to the label's roster

1:16.1

in a completely different way.

1:20.6

This is Broken Record,

1:22.8

real musicians, real conversations.

1:28.7

This is an I-Heart podcast.

1:31.5

Guaranteed Human.

1:33.5

On June 11, 1998, a deputy from the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department went missing.

1:39.8

Hey, if don't kill a cop and bury him, what are they going to do to me?

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