Hello my friend's

friends welcome to another episode of follow him.

My name's Hank Smith and I'm your host and I'm here with my tame co-host

John by the way and Dr Matt Bowen. John we are in Jacob five six and seven what are you

looking forward to? I think a lot of people they understand Jacob five as a vineyard but they don't know what to do with it all of us go this is a long chapter why is this in here?

I love this chapter job I didn't as a kid I'll tell you I remember when my parents would say okay

We're gonna read five verses each and I thought I'm never gonna go to school three days later

Like I said John we're here with Dr. Matt Bowen he's out in the religion department at BYU Hawaii. Matt what are we looking forward to

today Jacob five, and seven?

So what we have in Jacob five is an extended parable about the atonement of Jesus Christ and its effects

on the human family and how that

atonement relates to the gathering of Israel in fulfillment of the

Abrahamic Covenant. And then Jacob will tie it up. I think he intended to conclude his record in chapter six.

He ties it up with some references to the Psalms and to Isaiah in chapter six and then in chapter seven perhaps is an

unintended koda to the book of his encounter with Sharon and they impact that

had on him and his people.

That helps us appreciate some other things that happen later in the Book of Mormon

where we have other individuals who come using specious logic and rhetoric in an attempt to get people off of the

covenant path. Lots of good stuff in these chapters. Our first anti-Christ figure in Cherham. I'm reminded of what

Elder Holland once wrote. He said this allegory is a declaration of divine love.

John, we haven't had Matt on the podcast in a couple of years.

We were way back in the Book of Exodus.

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