Welcome to Part 2 with Dr. Barbara Morgan Gardner, Jacob, Chapter 1 through 4.

Barbara, I'm looking at Jacob 2.17.

Think of your brethren, like unto yourselves, and be familiar. I always ask my students,

what's the word inside of familiar? It's family. Be family and that's what you're describing.

Hank it was Aeslin Dyer that said something I'll never forget on a

previous podcast where she said an adult is someone who contributes more than

he consumes or she contributes more than he consumes.

Oh, she contributes more than she consumes and I thought, whoa, that's that outward thinking you're talking about.

Hank and John, I remember being at a chaplaincy meeting. It was all chaplains in the church.

We were having a training from the head chaplain of the Air Force. She came and she said, you know, I have a question.

I would love for you to teach me. Help me understand what goes on her and she said,

it's the craziest thing with Saturday St. Chaplains,

that it doesn't matter if it's an enemy or a friend.

Our LDS chaplains serve them both as if they are their brothers and sisters.

And she said, can you help me understand that?

What is it about your teachings?

What is it about your

religion that makes that such an outstanding element of your Latter-day Saint chaplains.

We all were sitting in that auditorium in the administration building of the church

and I think we all just thought to ourselves because we are we do take care of each other and to me it was so

interesting to see this head chaplain not be able to really put her teeth into why this was so real for us. Those chaplains and those people that are

serving in those areas of the world where they're seeing such great sorrow and warfare and things,

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