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Broken Record with Rick Rubin, Malcolm Gladwell, Bruce Headlam and Justin Richmond

Jack White & Brendan Benson of the Raconteurs

Broken Record with Rick Rubin, Malcolm Gladwell, Bruce Headlam and Justin Richmond

Pushkin Industries

Music, Society & Culture

4.54.2K Ratings

🗓️ 1 October 2019

⏱️ 74 minutes

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Summary

Jack White and Brendan Benson of the Raconteurs play through some songs off their new record, "Help Me Stranger" and talk with Malcolm Gladwell from Jack's Detroit home. Rick Rubin joins by phone. Jack talks through his theory that references to modern technology don't work in modern Rock and Roll, what they've picked up as a band by living in Nashville, how perfect performances can sometimes be unconvincing, the songwriting process on the new record & more!

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0:00.0

I'm at Jack White's house in Detroit. There's over a dozen of us there. Jack's 88-year-old

0:18.4

mom is in the front room greeting everyone as they come in. There's all the brothers

0:22.0

there too. So are some folks from the third man record label Jack Rose. Malcolm Gladwell

0:26.8

and I are sitting in amazement. The Rackentores, Patrick Keeler, Jack Lawrence,

0:31.7

Brennan Benson, Jack White are hanging on Jack's son porch warming up playing the blues.

0:37.2

Of the 30 or so number one billboard albums this year only four have been

0:43.6

rock albums and one was the Rackentores help us stretch.

0:56.8

Jack and Malcolm first met in Nashville to talk about Elvis for Malcolm's other podcast,

1:07.6

Revisionist History. Malcolm got the grand tour of Jackson State in Tennessee where he and

1:12.4

most of the band live now full time. After that Malcolm would jump at any chance to hang

1:17.3

with Jack. So when the invite came to tape a broken record episode with the band and their

1:21.3

native Detroit we lucked at it. Even Rick Rubin phoned in for it. You'll hear him turn

1:26.3

up a few minutes into the conversation. This is a fun one. This is Broken Record Season

1:35.6

3, liner notes for the digital age. I'm Justin Richmond. Before Malcolm and Rick's

1:44.8

conversation with the Rackentores the band kicked things off with a great cover of Don

1:48.5

Evans. Hey, Chip dig the slowest.

2:48.5

Bye you sugar cube.

3:00.5

Bye you sugar cube.

3:04.5

Bye you sugar cube. If you just give me something you love man. Just give me some of

3:10.3

your love. Just give me some of your love babe. Just give me some of your love.

3:17.5

Wait wait that's the one where you thought of swapping out Cadillac for Tesla.

3:31.5

Yeah we were talking about like why don't we modernize it. If we're doing the cover of this you

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