Also we have an update for you during the interview you'll hear

and Jack refer to Heather Hare the woman who was killed when she was mowed down by a

driver as a wobbly or a member of the industrial workers of the world or iwWW that was the information that was

available at the time it's now not clear that she was a wobbly or in the IWW but

I'm keeping in the story that I tell towards the end of the interview about another wobbly because

I think it's still relevant and poignant. Welcome to a special breaking news episode of The Katie Halper Show that we did with

reporter Jack Smith who is a senior writer at Mike and he is coming to us

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Welcome, Jack. Jack Smith.

Welcome, Jack. Hey Katie, thanks for having me.

Yeah, of course.

Thanks for talking to me.

And people may be following you on Twitter because you've been really consistently tweeting about this.

Jack's Twitter handle is Jack Smith.

What is it?

Ivy the fourth.

Do you know? I do, but I want Jack Smith I.

The only, uh, the least Jewish name, the least ethnic name probably in my entire phone.

I knew that we were going to get into ethnography like really rapidly

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