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Jack Smith Live

Main Justice

MS NOW, Andrew Weissmann, Mary McCord

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4.76.8K Ratings

🗓️ 23 January 2026

⏱️ 14 minutes

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Summary

The former special counsel testified in front of the Republican-led House Judiciary Committee for five hours on Thursday.

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0:00.0

Welcome back, everyone, to a special edition.

0:06.8

It is Thursday, January 22nd, and Mary and I are on because we both are going to give our sort of top takes on the Jack Smith public testimony. Remember, he did testify privately.

0:25.5

He wanted it to be public, but he testified privately and then on New Year's Eve that was released

0:30.9

in the dead of night. And now he has testified publicly live. Of course, I also interviewed him, so I was quite curious to see this, obviously,

0:42.2

in a very different format here.

0:44.7

And so obviously, everyone can get that from Googling and YouTube and stream it in all sorts of ways.

0:52.9

But we want to give you a sort of quick overview of what

0:56.4

we thought was the top take or takeaways. So, Mary, welcome. I know you and I are, people can't

1:03.9

see this, but we're dressed like twinsies. We are. White shirts, dark suits.

1:17.0

Yeah, and we're basically, you know, I'm like just finished talking with Nicole Wallace and Alex Wagner and then, you know, I'm going on the six and you're going on the seven and

1:21.0

then I'm going on the eight and then I'm going on the 10 and you're doing NPR and this,

1:25.3

that, the other. It's like, so it's like full employment for the Mary McCord, Andrew Weissman's show.

1:31.1

Yep.

1:31.5

But we're with everyone right now to give some top takes.

1:36.0

So, Mary, what were your sort of big takeaways?

1:40.1

So first, I think the difference in the deposition that we got to watch and read the transcript

1:47.2

of that was in private and today's public hearing in terms of the political posturing, right?

1:54.0

The deposition testimony was not without some, you know, politics injected into the questions,

2:00.0

for sure. But because there was no audience,

2:03.1

because it wasn't live streamed, the questions did tend to be more just like, ask Jack Smith

2:08.1

a question, let him answer. Ask Jack Smith another question. Let him answer. Today, each representative

2:15.6

got five minutes. A big portion of that five minutes was the representative

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