Suicide is a permanent solution to what is often a temporary problem.

What would you say to people what would you offer and from this perspective I think what would you think might be helpful?

There's two different lenses that I come at it from.

Yeah.

If I'm with my recovery lens, if I'm communicating with someone in recovery my my

also would be go to a meeting raise your hand tell the room what's going on,

hang out with people after the meeting.

Go to bed, call me in the morning.

And it's, for me, the solution and that

is let's just shrink everything down.'s not okay a day at a time

sure that might be tough but how about this a meal at a time yeah get to breakfast

call me at breakfast and we'll talk about getting to lunch and that's what it takes

an hour at a time we say a minute at a time yeah for me though for like the hour the minute

sometimes I need more of a goal I need like okay but like lunch

all right well where am I going for lunch or what am I eating for lunch I can make a

plan to get that right whereas a minute I'm like I don't know what I'm doing

the next minute I might just like pick my nose and I'll like go on Instagram or whatever.

So that you know that's what my kind of where I would go recovery wise now if I'm just talking to like a man in the street

where I don't know what kind of,

you know, if they are engaged in any kind of program,

anything like that, I think if anything,

it's listening. Like I'm not going to say it like if you ask for my advice in the moment

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