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Uncomfortable Conversations with Josh Szeps

Jack Latimore: What The Voice Referendum Really Means

Uncomfortable Conversations with Josh Szeps

Josh Szeps

Society & Culture, Education, Comedy Interviews, Comedy, Self-improvement

4.5905 Ratings

🗓️ 8 October 2023

⏱️ 87 minutes

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Summary

On October 14th, Australians will vote about whether to recognise the country’s First Peoples in the Constitution by establishing a body called the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice.

Jack Latimore is a Birpai man and the Indigenous affairs journalist for The Age and the Sydney Morning Herald. He joins the show to explain it all.

You can read Jack’s work at the link below.
https://www.theage.com.au/by/jack-latimore-p4ywbz

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0:00.0

Good-day humans, welcome to the safe space for dangerous ideas.

0:06.0

And here's a big dangerous idea that every single Australian man, woman and child, not child, they can't vote.

0:13.0

Man and woman and other non-man woman, man, she man.

0:18.0

And all of the voting people in Australia

0:20.8

will soon be asked

0:22.3

nay required to vote on

0:24.9

the idea

0:26.0

that Australia should change its constitution

0:28.9

to create a formal body

0:31.7

in which First Nations Australians

0:33.6

could express their will, their opinion

0:36.5

on bills that may come before the Parliament

0:39.3

that affect First Nations people. This would be a very, very big deal, and it's not very

0:47.6

free very often that Australia comes together to try to change its founding document or that

0:52.0

any country comes together to try to hold a national referendum to change its founding document or that any country comes together to try to hold a national

0:54.2

referendum to change its founding document. So I thought it would be time to speak to someone who

0:59.8

understands this issue better than anyone. Jack Latimore is the Aboriginal Affairs

1:08.4

journalist at the age and the City Morning Herald newspaper, these are the large broadsheets in Australia, and can give us the most impartial understanding of all of the people who I know, of the pros and cons, the yeses and the knows, the facts and the fictions, which he's been studying

1:28.9

about this proposal. A little bit of background first. First Nations Australians are the

1:38.0

oldest continuous civilization in the world. There are a great many different nations on the landmass and the waters and

1:47.6

islands of Australia, and therefore it has not historically been a simple question of like,

1:56.2

oh, let's just make a treaty necessarily, not that there's ever been a huge push for a treaty,

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