Jack Goldsmith and Matt Olsen on the Current State of National Security

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🗓️ 11 March 2017

⏱️ 39 minutes

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This week on the podcast, Jack Goldsmith sat down with former Director of the National Counterterrorism Center Matt Olsen to talk about the current state of national security. What should we make of the president's tweeted allegations of politically motivated wiretapping? Of the revised executive order restricting entry into the United States from six majority-Muslim countries? Of the most recent release by Wikileaks? Of Trump's persistent attacks on the integrity of the intelligence community? Jack and Matt are here, if not to explain things, then at least to talk them through.

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0:25.6	no bull and the aftermath.
0:32.6	Of all the controversial allegations that have come out post 9-11 about what the intelligence
0:37.6	community has been doing in secret, we have not seen any credible allegations of a return
0:42.8	to the kind of abuse of the intelligence agencies for political means.
0:48.0	And that's what this seems to be.
0:49.0	It really is a return to the pre-church type of thing.
0:54.6	And that's kind of what I'm getting to, which is why, again, for me, but maybe for the
1:00.1	country as a whole, there's the reaction reflects the fact that we understand this as part
1:06.9	of our history, but that we've moved beyond.
1:10.5	We've taken incredible steps to prevent presidents from acting unilaterally to conduct surveillance
1:18.3	on American citizens.
1:19.9	Especially for political and self-servient political and so on.
1:23.2	It was what the charge was for political reasons.
1:26.3	And so this is something we've, you know, as a country, has been very traumatic for us.
1:31.1	And we've gotten through it.
1:33.0	And here we are in 2017 to have that allegation.
1:37.3	I'm Quintet Jurexic and this is the LawFair podcast, March 11, 2017.
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