From KCRW Santa Monica and KCRW.com, it's The Treatment.

Welcome to the treatment, the home edition. I'm Elvis Mitchell. It's a thrilling thing to be

talking to somebody who at this point is probably in the center of pop culture, the woman who helped to bring Wanda Vision, the newest iteration of the Marvel Cinematic Universe to us all on Disney Plus.

I'm talking to the show's executive producer, Jack Schaefer, Jack.

Thank you so much for being. It's such a thrill to have you.

Oh, my gosh. It's my pleasure. Thank you. much for being. It's such a thrill to have you. Oh, my gosh.

It's my pleasure.

Thank you.

We look at the stuff you don't.

We look at timer or the hustle, which one of my favorite gags, by the way, is the trash bag dress gag.

That's one of the best visuals.

But also that really sets the tone for what you do, which is the sort of the tension between

reality and illusion.

Actually, I cannot take credit for that.

That is director Chris Addison, who is a master with visual comedy.

But I am so tickled by that and it does like speak to my soul, that kind of storytelling.

Yeah, like what's the reality of the situation and can it be thought-provoking and funny at the same time? I mean, we look at what you

do with the timer though, and there are similar tones in timer where the difference between

reality and illusion is really what people believe. I think that I'm always interested in sort of what-if stories.

And alternate reality isn't quite the way to characterize it.

It's just like, yeah, sort of world building.

And if this was a thing, if, yeah, with timers, if there was a device that counted down to your soulmate,

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