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Hey friends, Helen here. On today's episode of the E-Upsel, Greg and I are talking with Jay Kenji Lopez

Alt, the man who Ed Levine referred to once as the most important recipe developer to come

along in a generation. Then again, Ed is Kenji's boss. Kenji is the managing

culinary director of serious eats and far more importantly for our purposes

he is the author, creator, and human embodiment of the Food Lab. Before we get to

talking with Kenji, though,

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And now, Greg and I are going to talk to Kenji Lopez-Alp.

I had a terrible bagel this morning, like terrible, terrible bagel.

That's a classic New York experience.

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