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Hello. Hello and welcome to Spycaste from the Secret Files of the International Spy Museum in Washington, D.C.

I'm Peter Ernest, the Executive Director of the Museum. I served for

some 36 years in the Central Intelligence Agency, largely as what is called an

operations officer or a case officer.

Every month we'll be bringing you interesting talks with visitors,

with authors, with others who have something to do with the world of intelligence

and espionage. World of Intelligence and Espionage.

Our guest today is Dr. Ray Bat Venice.

Ray is a retired special agent of the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

He went on after that career to a career in both

academ, as well as writing and lecturing. He was also the executive director of

the J. Edgar Hoover Foundation at one point. So I wanted to ask Ray in to talk about the current film, Jay Edgar, the Clint Eastwood

production.

And let me just say in introducing the subject, Ray is steeped in the subject.

Ray is steeped in the subject,

both having been in the Bureau,

as well as having authored a book called

The Origins of FBI Counterintelligence, which came out in 2007 and is now

available in paperback. So Ray before we get into the film let me just step back for a

moment. When did you join the Bureau of

Investigation in July of 1972? It was about two and a half months after Hoover's death.

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