Hi, everybody. Welcome to Shift, a podcast about mobility. My name is Pete Bigelow. I'm your host and reporter at the automotive news.

My guests on the podcast today are Kathleen Risk and Lisa Boar of Consumer Insights firm J.D. Power.

We're going to talk about driver assist systems and whether drivers actually find them useful,

whether they find value in paying for them,

and whether they're really worth the big investments that automakers are making in systems

that increasingly try to blur the lines between offering driver assist features

and the elusive personally owned autonomous vehicle.

We see in general with active driving assistance kind of an identity crisis, right?

They don't see it as convenient yet because they still have to pay attention, right?

And they don't see it as safety yet either. So it just doesn't

have a strong identity in terms of that benefit. But first, we have a look at this week's headlines

from around the mobility realm. And for that, I am joined by my automotive news colleague,

Molly Boygan. Molly, how are you today? I'm doing well, thanks, Pete. How are you?

I'm good. There's so much going

on in our little corner of the universe this week. We may have to go right to a lightning round here,

I think. Yes, it's been a busy week. No doubt. And you have been right in the eye of that storm.

So kick this off from Washington, D.C. It sounds like EV tax credits may

disappear sooner rather than later. What's the latest on that front? Yes. So this week,

we had been anxiously awaiting the release of the Senate Finance Committee's text for the Senate

version of the budget bill. The Senate released that text,

and there were a couple of surprises in there. Most notably, the House version of the bill

had the individual $7,500 EV tax credit phasing out at the end of this year. It had a carve out for manufacturers that had not

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