Welcome to the Conversations That Matter Podcast. I am John Harris and for the first time we have with us J.D. Hall.

J.D. Thank you for joining us and being willing to talk about the Southern Baptist Convention and whatever else we get into in these 15 minutes.

Yeah, excellent. My secretary said, hey, we've got a bunch of podcasts and radio show requests and I said I'm not doing it for anybody

unless I know them and like them and she said John Harris I made a short list. I like that John Harris.

We'll do that podcast.

So I appreciate it.

You've been busy as I understand.

You've been kind of involved in a new project traveling the state and

in local politics. So how's that going for you it's going you know I've been really you know pretty well exiled and cancelled by evangelical you know cancel culture so I thought well there's more than one way to skin a cat so I got heavily

involved in in statewide politics so I'm trying to do the opposite of Greg Locke

Greg Locke gets into churches to preach politics.

So I've been getting into political events. Ran for office, one for office in the Montana GOP.

So now I get in front of political offices excuse me political events to preach Jesus

So I've been home four nights in the last four weeks been on a non-stop speaking tour around the state and the point of my talk every time is the problem is not politics the answer is not politics the problem is sin the answer is Jesus and I'm talking primarily about the gospel and about critical race theory and Marxism.

So that's why I've been so busy.

Well that's great.

One of the things I wanted to pick your brain on a little bit

is the Southern Baptist Convention,

because you, through pulpit and pen and now,

Protestia, were kind of, you're a pioneer in a way.

I think I use that word even online with recognizing Russell

Moore as a wolf in sheep's clothing and some of the other actors who inhabit the denomination

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