Welcome to the conversationsations That Matter Podcast. My name is John Harris. I'm not sure where we're going to call this podcast yet, what the title will be because there's a few things I want to talk about and I'm not sure how much time I'm going to devote to each one.

So we'll just see how it goes and by the end I'll just maybe tally it up and see okay which

which topic did we focus on the most? I was traveling over the weekend with my wife. We were

actually at a wedding in Ohio and so we queued up a few podcasts and I'm going to talk

about the one yesterday with JD Hall just for a few minutes because there were just a few comments.

There weren't many, but there were a few comments from some people that had a few concerns about

it and I want to address those briefly.

But we saw some beautiful country by the way in West Virginia.

And by the way, West Virginia, it's a state

that I just don't think it gets the credit it deserves.

It's very pretty. I've driven through West Virginia, like different, you know, hitting the edge of it before.

I've never actually driven like in the heart of West Virginia, really seeing what it looks like and it's very

mountainous but it's very pretty and you know I was their major city right

Charleston is so small you know you think of I thought I was going to come across this big city it's

not big at all but beautiful state and the only time you really ever

hear what West Virginia referenced is in country roads right John Denver song but I, John Denver's song.

But I think John Denver when he was writing that song,

even though they try to claim for West Virginia tourism,

you know, West Virginia, you know,

almost heaven.

I don't think John Denver was actually talking about West Virginia. I'm just going off the lyrics. He says

Blue Ridge Mountain, Shenandoah River, which I think he's talking about the Shenandoah Valley,

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