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Itsiq Benizri on the EU AI Act

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🗓️ 16 February 2024

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

The EU has finally agreed to its AI Act. Despite the political agreement reached in December 2023, some nations maintained some reservations about the text, making it uncertain whether there was a final agreement or not. They recently reached an agreement on the technical text, moving the process closer to a successful conclusion. The challenge now will be effective implementation. 

To discuss the act and its implications, Lawfare Fellow in Technology Policy and Law Eugenia Lostri sat down with Itsiq Benizri, counsel at the law firm WilmerHale Brussels. They discussed how domestic politics shaped the final text, how governments and businesses can best prepare for new requirements, and whether the European act will set the international roadmap for AI regulation.

You can listen to Eugenia’s October conversation about approaches to AI regulation with Itsiq and Arianna Evers here

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You know, when you were dealing with rapidly changing tech, it's hard to predict what we'll be facing in a couple of years, let alone five.

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And trying to regulate stuff we don't even know about yet is obviously even more difficult.

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That's a big challenge. So look, I don't think the act is

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any less prepared to handle the future changes in AI. But I also don't think it's specifically tailored for that either.

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I think we just need to be humble and accept that there are limits to what clothes can do when it comes to tech.

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And yeah, sure. to what laws can do when it comes to tech.

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And yeah, sure, authorities and courts will do their best to interpret the rules.

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But as far as I'm concerned, I think this is probably not ideal.

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I am Eugenia Lachtray,

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Bluffer's fellow in technology policy and law,

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and this is the Lawfer Podcast February 16, 2024. The EU has finally agreed to its AI Act. Despite the

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political agreement reached in December 2023, some nations maintained

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some reservations about the text, making it uncertain whether

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there was a final agreement or not.

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They have recently reached an agreement on the technical text, therefore moving the process closer to a successful conclusion.

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The challenge now will be effective implementation.

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To discuss the Act and its implications, I was joined by Itsegbenisserie,

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Council at law firm Wilmer Hale, Brussels.

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