Chatter: Life and Death in Ukraine with Journalist Christopher Miller
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🗓️ 15 February 2024
⏱️ 48 minutes
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Summary
In February 2022, Russia launched a full scale invasion into Ukraine in the largest attack on a European country since World War II. This invasion did not start a new war, but escalated the ongoing Russo-Ukrainian War that started in 2014 when Russian forces captured Crimea and invaded the Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts.
In his book, “The War Came to Us: Life and Death in Ukraine,” author and journalist Christopher Miller tells the story of the past fourteen years in Ukraine through his personal experiences living and reporting in Ukraine since 2010. For this week’s Chatter episode, Anna Hickey spoke with Chris Miller about his book, what led to the full scale invasion in 2022, the 2014 capture of Crimea, and his journey from being a Peace Corps volunteer in Bakhmut in 2010 to a war correspondent.
Among the works mentioned in this episode:
- The book, “The War Came to Us: Life and Death in Ukraine,” by Christopher Miller
- The article, “Documents show Russian separatist commander signed off on executions of three men in Sloviansk” by Christopher Miller
- The book, "Voroshilovgrad" by Serhiy Zhadan
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| 0:30.0 | Welcome to Chatter. I'm Anna Hecky. This week, writer and journalist Christopher Miller on his book, The War came to us, life and death in Ukraine. |
| 0:42.0 | Yanekovich, the president at the time, ordered his riot police to storm the |
| 0:49.0 | independent square where these peaceful protesters had been sitting and they came there and |
| 0:55.1 | and bludgeoned them and there was quite literally blood running down the |
| 0:58.8 | stairs of Kyiv's Independence Square. There were no signs initially that it would |
| 1:06.4 | become a revolution that would alter Europe and and and really set in motion all of the events that have played out since including |
| 1:15.8 | Russia's full-scale invasion in 2022 in the war that we're witnessing here in Ukraine right now. |
| 1:21.2 | You know I remember my phone ringing constantly. |
| 1:27.0 | It was not only family and friends back home in the U.S. checking in on me, |
| 1:31.0 | but my Ukrainian friends asking me, what do you know? |
| 1:34.6 | Where should we go? |
| 1:36.3 | And at that moment I didn't have a lot of answers. Christopher Miller, |
| 1:45.0 | welcome to Chatter. |
| 1:47.0 | Yeah, thank you. |
| 1:48.0 | So in your book, you write about your experience living and working in Ukraine |
| 1:51.5 | when you were first sent there by the Peace Corps. |
| 1:53.0 | Obviously in almost 15 years since Ukraine has seen some significant changes, |
| 1:58.0 | but thinking back to when you first got there, |
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