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Channels with Peter Kafka

It’s TV’s biggest week - and TV is on strike

Channels with Peter Kafka

Vox Media Podcast Network

Technology, Tv & Film, Business News, News

4.4585 Ratings

🗓️ 15 May 2023

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

Live from New York, it’s Upfronts week, where TV networks sell billions of dollars of advertising with glitzy presentations. It’s also the third week of the writers’ strike, which means the people who make the shows that run in between ads are picketing those presentations. So it’s a good time to talk about the state of the post-streaming boom TV business. Bloomberg’s Lucas Shaw drops by the studio to talk to Vox’s Peter Kafka about challenges facing the networks as they sell ads, and the writers as they try to get better deals - and whether either side really thinks AI is going to write a script anytime soon. Featuring: Lucas Shaw (@Lucas_Shaw), media reporter for Bloomberg Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode More to explore: Subscribe for free to Recode Media, Peter Kafka, one of the media industry's most acclaimed reporters, talks to business titans, journalists, comedians, and more to get their take on today's media landscape. About Recode by Vox: Recode by Vox helps you understand how tech is changing the world — and changing us. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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slash voxpod this is recode media with peter kofka i'm in studio with lucas shaw who is king of all media at Bloomberg News. Welcome, Lucas.

1:14.8

I feel like more of a of a prince than a king. I don't think I'm at king status. You break

1:20.8

stories all the time. You have an awesome newsletter called screen time. You have a conference coming this fall.

1:30.4

Congratulations. Thank you. On your media conference.

1:37.1

He said slightly jealously. I mean, you've done it. Do you have a podcast yet? No, I do not.

1:44.6

Okay. We'll have a discussion about that. You are in town in studio at V Media because it's Upfronts week.

1:46.0

Weeks? Weeks.

1:47.0

Weeks.

1:48.0

But it used to feel like weeks because there's sort of two weeks of Newfronts and then one week of Upfronts.

1:52.4

And the excitement around New Fronts has largely dwindled in part because YouTube was just like the biggest player moved to Upfronts week with all the TV companies. The upfronts are what used to be the biggest week in the TV industry. I think they maybe still are. For people who've just shown up to this podcast and don't know what the up fronts are, tell them what they are supposed to be. We're going to have a conversation about TV in general. We're going to talk about movies and writer's strike.

2:21.2

But we're going to spend a lot of time talking about TV because you're here to talk about TV.

2:28.9

The upfronts are when the TV networks pitch advertisers on their upcoming programming. So it'll be, you know, CBS talking about all the great new, you know, procedurals coming to CBS.

2:35.3

It'll be Disney talking about new projects on ABC and now FX and other networks.

2:41.7

YouTube has crashed the party to talk about how great it is.

2:44.1

But it's historically been important because it's when you would find out about all the new shows.

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