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American Thought Leaders

It’s Time to Ban Transplant Tourism to China | Rep. Neal Dunn

American Thought Leaders

The Epoch Times

Government, News, Politics

4.91.1K Ratings

🗓️ 7 November 2025

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

“We don’t want Americans to participate in any way, shape, or form in this kind of organ harvesting and transplantation scheme. … You can actually sit in America, [and] make an appointment for a heart, lung transplant in China right now,” says Congressman Neal Dunn (R-Fla.), a former Army surgeon who is also founding president of the Advanced Urology Institute in Florida.

“I want to make that illegal.”

As a starting point, Dunn has introduced the Block Organ Transplant Purchases from China Act, also known as the BLOCK Act, which would prohibit federal reimbursement for organ transplants and related medical services if the origins of the organs cannot be verified, as is the case in communist China.

In our wide-ranging interview, we cover China’s illicit organ trade, the biowarfare program, and President Donald Trump’s new trade deal with leader Xi Jinping, as well as how America can accelerate rare earth mineral production, and the strategic significance of Pacific island nations like the Solomon Islands.

As a member of the House Select Committee on the Strategic Competition Between the United States and the Chinese Communist Party—often referred to as the House CCP Select Committee—Dunn receives intelligence briefings on the multifaceted threats that Beijing poses to American national security.

The CCP “is gathering biological data on all of us,” he says. “One of the most insidious ways they gather biological DNA sequencing on us is they run a set of blood banks in the United States.”

Views expressed in this video are opinions of the host and the guest, and do not necessarily reflect the views of The Epoch Times.

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0:00.0

The idea of actually murdering someone to take their organs and give them to somebody else,

0:06.8

you can actually make an appointment for a heart long transplant in China right now.

0:13.4

I want to make that illegal.

0:15.0

It's very tough to talk about organ harvesting with anybody, even in Congress, and the reason

0:20.2

for it is people are, they shrivel away from it.

0:23.6

When you say, let's talk about organ harvesting, they just looked out the floor gag and walk away.

0:30.6

Congressman Neil Dunn of Florida is a former U.S. Army surgeon and now a member of the House Select Committee on the Chinese Communist Party.

0:38.3

There is no doubt that the Chinese People's Liberation Army has a biological warfare effort.

0:45.3

They write about it in their own communication. They're gathering biological data on all of us.

0:52.3

Remember, SARS COVID-2 had not yet been fully weaponized. They were

0:56.5

just studying it. They had just made it more virulent, more contagious. They hadn't gotten

1:02.0

around at tailoring it to your DNA so that it would be much more likely to see, get a Caucasian,

1:08.5

and get an Asian.

1:09.5

This is American Thought Leaders, and I'm Yanya Kellogg.

1:16.9

Congressman Neil Dunn, such a pleasure to have you on American Thought Leaders.

1:20.7

Thank you so much for having me, Jan.

1:23.0

So President Trump has come back from Asia with the trade deal.

1:28.0

There's a reprieve on the export controls for rare earths for a year.

1:33.4

There are soybeans that are going to be sold.

1:36.5

What's your take on what happened with this trade deal?

1:38.9

He survives, he thrives on making deals.

1:43.2

So he's made another deal. And I think this is a good one. I mean,

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