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Welcome to Before Breakfast, a production of I Heart Radio.

Good morning.

This is Laura.

Welcome to the Before Breakfast Podcast.

Today's tip is that it is okay to be a late bloomer.

Sometimes, taking time to try lots of different things can teach you what you really like

so that you'll want to spend lots of time on whatever you do wind up pursuing.

Because you like it for its own sake. Today's tip comes from

before breakfast producer Lowell Burlante who hosts a new podcast called

Prodigy which is all about skill acquisition.

There are different theories on how people become really good at anything, Lowell tells me.

One example is Las LassO Polgar, a Hungarian educational psychologist who believed that talent

was irrelevant for mastery.

Instead, he decided, the determining factor was early specialized education.

And he set out to prove this with his own children.

Laslow and his wife had three daughters Susan, Sophia, and Judet.

Collectively known as the Polger sisters, they ended up smashing the long-standing gender barrier

that existed in competitive chess.

Susan was the first woman to become a grandmaster and was

ranked in the top three for 23 years. Sophia once played in a tournament in Rome

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