Hi, my name is John Kim. I'm a therapist who went through his own rebirth many years ago

and I've been documenting my journey ever since sharing my life lessons and revelations.

I believe in casual or clinical with you instead of at you. I come unrehearsed on purpose

because self-health doesn't have to be so complicated.

So I'm super excited about this conversation because you guys aren't just guests but there's history here.

There's a lot of, you know, collisions and catalysts and unfolding and connecting dots and you know

coming full circle all of that stuff happening so let's start with intro let's start with who they are.

Don't me to give the intro?

No, they should.

I think they should.

Yes.

Yes.

You want them to do it? Yes.

You want to start? Actually, that's a profession.

I would love for Vanessa to intro me.

That would be amazing.

She's so good.

Okay, let's make it fun.

Let's let Vanessa intro you

through the perspective of her 20-something-year-old self when she found you and you became one of the

greatest catalysts of her life.

So my acting like I'm in my 20s?

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