Hi, my name is John Kim. I'm a therapist who went through his own rebirth many years ago

and I've been documenting my journey ever since sharing my life lessons and revelations.

I believe in casual or clinical with you instead of at you. I come unrehearsed on purpose

because self-health doesn't have to be so complicated.

All right well Well, thank you both for agreeing to chat with us. You know, I thought that it was really interesting because when John and I were reading, you know, we asked people to just give us a little bit of a brief overview, right, a couple bullet points. When John and I were reading over it, I was like, oh, this feels kind of close to home because I had some similar stuff happen and come up for John and I in our beginning of our relationship.

So I'm going to give that 30,000 foot. So it sounds like there's been a few things you broke up you got back together right some of the initial things around the breakup were around some ambivalence right and now that we're back together there's a little bit of like maybe not feeling super secure that that ambivalence has totally gone away like there's almost like a lack of trust in that. Yeah. And then also maybe some, let's just say discomfort around the difference between the introvert extrovert and how you all show up in that space, but I want you guys to kind of take us deeper on that.

Yeah, yeah, sure, like you said, we broke up and most of the issues there were around, you know, it being a pandemic relationship. And so we weren't really going out and doing anything.

And then there was also ambivalence on one on my partner's time.

And we actually listened to your podcast and I sent to 10 and we both watch or listen to wherever you

were talking about that.

So similar issues there and so we took those four months apart and I did everything.

I kind of you know went out, went to meetups, picked up hobbies, and it felt like those four

months, it just changed a lot of things for me especially and then we got back together and things are things are much better feels like a different relationship or maybe can't even compare it honestly and but now what's different now that makes it better?

Yeah for me I feel like I'm more open. I don't think I was very open the first time. I was very

very guarded. Didn't really say the things I should be saying.

Anything I had a conflict with I would just ignore it and not bring it up.

And then I also think that I have a life outside of

you know our relationship because what I was doing was working

from home and then seeing him and most of my friends were gone or like living with their parents.

So this was only what was going on.

So after, you know, with that four months, I kind of figured that out and went to meet us, you know, we discovered some hobbies, things like that. And that really helped, I think, our relationship. And what about you, Charlie? What feels different this time for you?

I think understanding what she brought to the table I think before I come from I think more extroverted than her definitely

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