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🗓️ 9 November 2023
⏱️ 31 minutes
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David Remnick has reported on Israel and the Palestinian territories for many years. But his most recent trip to Israel was like nothing he’d seen before. In an article for the New Yorker, Remnick writes about visiting with survivors of the Hamas massacre, Israel’s assaults on Gaza, and what comes next. Below are excerpts from his interview with Apple News In Conversation host Shumita Basu.
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0:00.0 | Hey there, a quick message before we get into the show. This episode contains graphic descriptions |
0:06.2 | of violence that might be upsetting to some listeners. |
0:10.2 | As with any conversation or article about the Israel Hamas war, this episode on its own will not capture all of the complexities of the ongoing conflict. |
0:20.0 | If you're curious to hear other coverage we've done on this topic, |
0:23.5 | check out our daily news show, Apple News Today, |
0:26.3 | or past episodes of In Conversation. |
0:29.3 | Okay, here's the show. This is in conversation from Apple News. |
0:37.8 | I'm Shemita Bessu. |
0:39.3 | Today, impressions from a trip to Israel |
0:42.0 | with the New Yorker editor David Remnick. There is a lot of pain and suffering right now as the violence escalates between Israel and Hamas. |
1:00.0 | This situation is intolerable. This is David Remnick, editor of the New Yorker. |
1:06.0 | It's intolerable for Israelis to live in fear, |
1:09.0 | and it's intolerable for Palestinians to live lives of occupation or blockade and |
1:17.5 | misrule and immiseration. It's intolerable. |
1:22.3 | David recently returned from a report. Amiseration, it's intolerable. |
1:26.0 | David recently returned from a reporting trip to Israel, where he visited the communities that Hamas attacked on October 7th |
1:30.0 | and spoke to survivors of the massacre. |
1:33.0 | 1400 people were killed. |
1:36.0 | And even now, a month in, |
1:38.0 | more than 200 people are still being held hostage. |
1:41.0 | It is mind-boggling. |
1:42.0 | And to see or hear that being looked past, dismissed, not |
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