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Apple News In Conversation

How facial-recognition technology is upending privacy as we know it

Apple News In Conversation

Apple News

News Commentary, News

4.61.3K Ratings

🗓️ 2 November 2023

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

Big tech companies first started working on artificial facial recognition more than a decade ago. But they chose not to release it, worried about who might use it and how. Then, in 2017, the small startup Clearview AI debuted its facial-recognition app and began marketing its tool to law-enforcement agencies. This week on Apple News In Conversation, host Shumita Basu talks to Kashmir Hill, a New York Times tech reporter and author of the new book Your Face Belongs to Us, about what this technology is capable of, what guardrails exist, and what the future of privacy might look like.

Transcript

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This is in conversation from Apple News. I'm Shemitz Abasu. Today, how facial recognition technology is upending privacy. Last December, Kelly Conlin was preparing a special outing for her daughter.

0:30.0

She was taking her daughter who was in the Girl Scouts with the troop to see the rockets at Radio City Music Hall.

0:38.0

It was a holiday show.

0:40.0

This is Kashmir Hill, a tech reporter for the New York Times.

0:44.0

And as they try to enter Radio City Music Hall,

0:48.0

Kelly Conlan gets pulled aside and asked for her ID,

0:51.0

and she's informed that she's not allowed in the in the venue.

0:55.7

Kelly had been put on a temporary blacklist because she worked at a law firm that was

1:01.2

suing the owner of the venue who also owned a bunch of other big

1:04.8

event spaces like Madison Square Garden. Kelly wasn't even working on that lawsuit, but when she

1:11.1

entered the building, she was flagged by the venue's facial recognition system.

1:16.2

They had decided to use facial recognition technology to punish their enemies and they weren't

1:22.2

letting thousands of lawyers into their various

1:26.4

venues until they dropped their lawsuits or that resolved the litigation.

1:30.6

The parent company that owns the venue called its facial recognition

1:35.2

policy straightforward, just one of its tools to provide a safe environment.

1:41.2

This idea of using it to really just ban your enemies was a pioneering use of the technology

1:49.5

and I could just imagine all the different ways it could go if more businesses adopted that

1:55.3

practice.

1:56.3

It could really usher in a new era of discrimination, this ability to judge us, track us,

2:02.4

monitor us, ban us.

2:04.7

Cashmere has been reporting on the ways facial recognition technology

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