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Think from KERA

It’s easy to bet on sports. It’s hard not to get hooked

Think from KERA

KERA

Kera, 071003, Think, Society & Culture, Krysboyd

4.7911 Ratings

🗓️ 31 March 2026

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

If you were given thousands of dollars in free money to gamble, would you find yourself a little — or a lot — addicted to the games? McKay Coppins, staff writer at The Atlantic, joins host Krys Boyd to discuss how his magazine gave him $10,000 to use as seed money as he explored the rise of online sports gambling, why he was surprised at how much the gambling interfered with his family life and sleep and how he received special dispensation from his church to take part in the experiment. His article is “My Year as a Degenerate Gambler.”

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0:00.0

If you were an ethical editor at a respectable news organization, seeking a first-person perspective on the rapid rise of sports betting apps, you would not choose a reporter with a gambling problem.

0:21.2

You'd want somebody who could try out this addictive technology, write a clear-eyed account,

0:25.9

and at the end of the reporting project, walk away unchanged. If you work at the Atlantic,

0:31.0

there's a good chance you to sign McKay Coppins. From KERA in Dallas, this is Think. I'm Chris Boyd. Coppins is an award-winning journalist and

0:40.8

author. He's been a guest on this show several times to talk about geopolitics, journalism,

0:45.9

the history of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, of which Coppins happens to be a

0:50.1

practicing member. That is germane to this story, because as you may know, Mormons commit to living

0:55.7

a morally rigorous lifestyle, no alcohol or drugs, no premarital sex or pornography, and no gambling.

1:03.1

Coppins checked in with his bishop and set up some particular ground rules to ensure the assignment

1:07.6

didn't violate LDS rules, but he felt confident it would be okay because

1:11.8

he just doesn't have an addictive personality. And that is where the story gets interesting.

1:17.8

McKay Coppins is a staff writer at The Atlantic, which published his article My Year as a

1:22.7

degenerate gambler. McKay, welcome back to think. Thanks for having me. So I gather you had not really

1:29.3

gambled at all before this reporting assignment. And not only because it's against your

1:33.9

religion, you just thought, what a waste of time. Yeah, I was never interested in the broad

1:39.8

spectrum of things that I don't do for religious reasons. Gambling was not really an especially

1:46.6

tempting one. I didn't see the appeal. I'd actually spent a decent amount of time as a political

1:51.9

reporter in Las Vegas because Nevada is an important primary state and would often stay on the

1:58.5

Las Vegas strip and hotels and kind of walk through the casino floor

2:02.3

and sort of like shrug, you know?

2:04.6

Like I didn't get it.

2:05.6

It seemed a little depressing.

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