The Michael Berry Show.

I don't know if I ever told you, but I was once on Nightline with Ted Cople.

It was filmed in Houston at Wheeler Avenue Baptist Church.

And I was supposed to be on the panel.

But at the last minute, I wasn't on the panel.

And it was the then mayor.

I was a mayor pro tem, Bill White.

And it was a Houston-based show. And Ted Cople was

very arrogant. Oh, was he arrogant? I used to love the show. I thought it was a really,

really well-done show. And this was before hosts were as partisan and ideological as they

are, although he ended up kind of revealing that he was as well.

But early on, I didn't detect it. Heck, I used to watch Chris Matthews Hardball back in the day when he started,

and I thought it was pretty good, even though it was a partisan hack. I thought it was interesting.

I read his book. But of course, they all, and this is where the death of media, they all skewed too far to the left.

Well, I bring all that up for no particular reason, except as an introduction to the fact that in 1992,

Rush Limbaugh was for many years the sole voice of conservatism.

And much more so than, say, Bill Buckley, Rush Limbaugh had an

everyman's audience. So when he came on the scene, Buckley would speak in this received

pronunciation, very patriarchal, aristocratic voice.

And I don't think, you know, it was very national review.

And there was a group of people that liked that.

But the average person, even from his years at Firing Line,

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