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And now joining us a most important man and asset management and global Wall Street,

William McNabb of Vanguard,

wonderful, Bill, to speak to you again,

how many trillions of assets

does Fortress Bogle have right now?

Oh, thanks, Tom. You you know today we manage about 4.2 trillion or so on

behalf of 25 million investors. That's a I mean someday they're gonna to be in America's GDP.

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