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It Isn't Time to Negotiate in Ukraine...Yet

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🗓️ 30 November 2022

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Summary

With no clear path to advance and winter settling in, what would it take for Russia to negotiate an exit from Ukraine?


Guest: Fred Kaplan. Slate’s war stories correspondent


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These days, this is what nights in Ukraine sound like.

1:15.9

Snippet a video, where shot by a journalist named Liz Cookman, she is reporting from the city of

1:21.0

Deneepro. In places like Deneepro, the city center has gone dark because of power cuts,

1:28.9

and the temperature is hovering somewhere around freezing. The lack of heat may not be the worst

1:34.0

of it though. Elevators are out in urban high rises. In some buildings, you cannot even flush

1:40.8

the toilet. In fact, Russia's bombing has left Ukraine's energy system on the brink of collapse.

1:47.4

And Slate's Fred Kaplan says, that's all part of Russia's plan here.

1:51.3

Look, they're losing on the battlefield, military on, military. And so when that happens,

1:57.2

they go after the population. They commit what's essentially war crimes.

2:06.6

And what is the most vulnerable thing in Ukraine, in the winter? It's it's power stations.

2:13.2

Because going after the grid punishes everyone.

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