I'm so thrilled to have Liberty Hardy and Rincey Abrams here with me today, Lib from, well, you know her, from all the books, writes our new books newsletter, Rincey on Red or Dead.

They have agreed to join me to talk about Yajessie's transcendent, transcendent kingdom, her sophomore novel after homegoing, which I think was just three years ago now.

I'm actually not looking at the dating from me.

Five?

2016?

Maybe that's 4.

Yeah, I want to say 16 too.

I shouldn't ever go with my gut about how long things have been this year.

I read it in 2015, that's what it is. gut about how long things have been this year. Oh, okay.

Yeah, Lib read it in 1979 for a release last year.

I was three, that's what I learned how to read.

To work.

So at the top, even before we get into what we're going to get into

content warnings for, we were making a list before. Notably, maybe the

notable what's not here is there's not actually a sexual assault situation that happens in this.

There is animal cruelty, there's animal death, mental health, talk of suicide, racist language,

racism at large.

I think those are the ones we should really get off the top of our heads too.

Before we get into that, maybe we put in the context of

Homegoing which Rebecca and I talked about when that book was announced because

it was a seven-figure deal, the book came out, it was great, been looking forward to this, yeah, Jesse, I think one of the most, I think you could argue,

it wouldn't be insane to say maybe the most exciting writer of literary fiction work in today or one of a very small handful of people

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