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This is CBS Eye on the World.

Here's John Batchelor.

I welcome Jonathan Shanzer, my good colleague. He's the executive director of the Foundation for Defense of Democracy. And we're here to wish happy birthday

to Israel, 77 within these next hours. Jonathan, a very good evening to you. Israel and I are the same age, so I've enjoyed this

birthday every year of my birthdays as well. But in particular, this year seems significant in

that Israel's been at war ever since October 7th of two years hence, and there's no clear

end in sight. And yet, Independence Day is worthy of accepting. How do you

celebrate it, Jonathan? What do you think about on Independence Day for Israel? Good evening to you.

Good evening, John. Well, I think it's interesting that we sort of talk about this last war as something

that started on October 7th of 2003.

And there are those that would say that this is Israel's second war of independence,

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