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Unholy: Two Jews on the News

Israel At War: Week VI - with Amos Harel & Dan Senor

Unholy: Two Jews on the News

Unholy Media

News, Yonit Levi, Israel, Israel Podcast, Jonathan Freedland, Middle East, Jewish, Religion & Spirituality, Jews, Society & Culture

4.7680 Ratings

🗓️ 17 November 2023

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Summary

An update on the war from the doyen of Israel’s military correspondents, Amos Harel – and, in the week of perhaps the largest pro-Israel demonstration in US history, Yonit and Jonathan talk to Dan Senor, the former Pentagon official who was the first to describe Israel as the “start-up nation” and whose new book, The Genius of Israel, argues that the country is almost uniquely resilient. -- Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/unholypodcast/Join our Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1150578065793142See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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0:00.0

Six weeks in, what is the situation in the war between Israel and Hamas?

0:05.6

We'll be talking to one of Israel's most respected military analysts

0:10.1

and also to the man who coined the phrase, Israel Startup Nation.

0:15.2

It's Unholy. I'm Jonathan Friedland of The Guardian in London.

0:19.2

And I'm Unitlevy of Channel 12 in Tel Aviv.

0:33.6

Unholy, two Jews on the news. I have to tell you, Jonathan, we are week six. The mood of the country is still quite gloomy.

0:41.1

We are definitely still overcome with sorrow and also worried. Remember how in the first week

0:46.8

we talked about the fact that Israel is a country with only one degree of separation, right?

0:50.9

Everyone knows someone who is at the party. Everyone knows someone

0:54.4

who is living on the border, the Gaza envelope, or someone who is one of the first responders,

0:59.6

the soldiers of the police men and women. Now it's everyone knows someone who is fighting the war in

1:06.2

Gaza. Remember, Israel is a conscription army. You of of course, know this. That means mandatory military service.

1:11.6

A lot of young people fighting this war and reservists.

1:16.0

So that means a lot of parents around the country not sleeping for the past three weeks

1:19.8

since the ground incursion began.

1:22.1

This is the mood.

1:23.2

And when you think of the fact that only this week, you have some of the victims of the massacre of October 7th identified.

1:31.0

Only now that, of course, tells you something about what happened to them.

1:35.3

People like Vivian Silver from Kibbutzberi was 74 years old, a peace activist, who was considered or thought to have been taken captive.

1:43.6

But now it is clear that her body was indeed found. And Ronnie Eshel, who was a or thought to have been taken captive, but now it is clear that her body

1:45.5

was indeed found. And Ronnie Eshel, who was a lookout soldier, a private, 19 years old,

1:51.0

in Nakhal O, sitting in the Emergency Operation Center on October 7th, I think a lot will have to be

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