Israel Alone
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🗓️ 17 June 2026
⏱️ 29 minutes
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Summary
Both the US and Iran are talking up a deal that will end the war and re-open the Strait of Hormuz. So why is Israel so upset about it?
Guest: Gregg Carlstrom, Middle East correspondent for the Economist
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| 0:00.0 | What are the words we're using to describe whatever it is that the Trump administration |
| 0:11.2 | and the Islamic Republic of Iran are expected to sign this Friday? |
| 0:16.9 | I've heard some people describe this latest agreement as a ceasefire, as an accord. |
| 0:22.4 | But Greg Karlstrom, from over at the Economist, he says there are a couple of words he is begging you not to use. |
| 0:31.9 | Not a peace deal. That is very much not what I think this is. It's not how I would describe it. I mean, the U.S. |
| 0:39.8 | government is calling it a memorandum of understanding. I think you could also call it a deal to keep |
| 0:46.0 | talking about another deal, which is very much what the ceasefire was back in April. And this is |
| 0:52.0 | just the sort of warmed over, updated version of that in some |
| 0:55.5 | ways. |
| 0:56.3 | It feels a little bit to me like an extension on a term paper more than anything. |
| 1:00.7 | It gives us 60 more days to negotiate something firmer. |
| 1:04.4 | It does. |
| 1:05.2 | I mean, if you go back to that ceasefire in April, why did they not agree to a more comprehensive |
| 1:10.7 | deal that would end the war for good? |
| 1:13.2 | It's because there were certain substantive points of disagreement that they just couldn't resolve. |
| 1:19.0 | And at the top of that list was what do you do with Iran's nuclear program with its stockpile of |
| 1:24.7 | highly enriched uranium? |
| 1:26.3 | And that's unresolved here. |
| 1:27.5 | It's completely unresolved in this memorandum of understanding. |
| 1:36.4 | The basic thing the U.S. wants the world to know is that the Strait of Hormuz will be opening at some point soon. Even that seems squishy to me. |
| 1:46.8 | Like when Donald Trump first announced on social media, there was some kind of agreement. |
| 1:51.6 | The implication was that the straight would be open right away. And then within a few hours, |
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