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🗓️ 15 February 2017
⏱️ 26 minutes
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With Paul Wood, Tom Tugendhat MP, Matthew Parris, James Forsyth, Harry Mount and Nick Hilton. Presented by Lara Prendergast.
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0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to The Spectator Podcast. I'm Lara Prendergast and on this week's episode |
0:09.4 | we'll be discussing what the end of ISIS means for a fragile Middle East. We'll also be debating |
0:14.3 | whether John Burko should be packing his bags and finally we'll be asking whether the days of the |
0:18.9 | Billingdon Club have finally ended. |
0:25.5 | First up, the attempt by ISIS to establish a caliphate has been on the rocks for some time now. |
0:30.0 | And with President Trump now at the tiller of the US military, its days may be numbered. |
0:34.6 | Trump wants to retake the Syrian city of Raqa quickly, but, in order to do so, |
0:38.0 | he may have to rewrite the cautious approach of his predecessor Barack Obama. |
0:41.8 | Paul Wood writes about this and more in this week's magazine cover piece, |
0:47.3 | and he joins me now from Washington, along with the Conservative MP and Iraq War veteran Tom Tuggenhard. |
0:53.5 | So Paul, in your piece you suggest that Trump, well Trump said that he wants to have a big win over ISIS within 90 days. |
0:55.4 | We're now 30 days into his presidency. |
0:57.2 | How's that plan looking for Trump? |
1:01.3 | The Islamic State was already pretty sick when Mr Trump arrived in office. |
1:06.0 | And if he's the one who performs the coup de grace, then he can claim credit for it. |
1:08.5 | It is a very, very short timetable. |
1:12.5 | Raka is a city of 300,000 people. And I remember being embedded with the US Marines back in 2004 attacking a city of 300,000 people, which was largely empty, |
1:19.3 | with 25,000 extremely professional US forces, and it was a very, very difficult fight. It took a very |
1:25.8 | long time, as the Iraqi army is experiencing |
1:28.6 | in Mosul. So a quick end to this, I think, will be much more difficult than he may have thought |
1:34.0 | on the campaign trail, but it all depends on what he's going to do. American troops could do it a lot |
1:38.4 | faster than the Kurdish and Arab coalition, backed by some US special forces that are there now, |
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