ISC StormCast for Monday, January 18th, 2021
SANS Internet Stormcenter Daily Cyber Security Podcast (Stormcast)
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🗓️ 18 January 2021
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, welcome to the Monday, January 18th, 2021 edition of the Sandcentred Storm Center's Stormcast. My name is Johannes Ulrich. And I'm recording from Jacksonville, Florida. |
| 0:13.2 | This weekend, Guy wrote a diary about some scans that he saw in his honeypots looking for DNS over HTTP endpoints. |
| 0:23.8 | So what these scans are looking for are systems that are configured to accept recursive requests |
| 0:31.2 | via DNS over HTTP. DNS over HTTP, of course, has sort of caused a big stir these last couple years as browsers, |
| 0:40.9 | sort of more and more embraced it as a more privacy-preserving protocol. |
| 0:46.3 | The countermeasure often deployed by enterprises is to block access to certain DNS over |
| 0:53.9 | HTTP services, like the well-knowns, like, for example, Cloudflare, Google, and the like. |
| 1:00.1 | So if an company does block these well-known DNS over HGPS services, an attacker may choose to use, well, a private service that someone put up and they're not really all that |
| 1:13.1 | difficult to set up. For traditional DNS servers, we often have attackers scan for resolvers |
| 1:20.8 | in order to use them in denial of service attacks. Now, this is not really an issue when it comes |
| 1:26.6 | to DNS over HTTP due to the use of |
| 1:30.3 | TCP and then of course also TLS. There is little to no chance that they are used for these |
| 1:37.8 | amplified reflective attacks that we have seen with traditional DNS recursive servers. |
| 1:45.0 | But instead, well, they may use them to evade corporate filtering policies, |
| 1:51.0 | and of course could also be used then for attacks or just to anonymize queries. |
| 1:57.0 | So how do you block DNS over HTTP if a non-published endpoint is used? Well, in my opinion, |
| 2:05.1 | it's actually a much easier question, really. It really comes down to do you intercept a TLS? |
| 2:12.0 | If you do intercept TLS, it's pretty straightforward based on the content type to figure out that a certain |
| 2:19.7 | HTTP request is a DNS over HTTP request. |
| 2:23.5 | And then you can log them, you can block them, or whatever. |
| 2:27.6 | If you do not intercept TLS to decrypted, then you pretty much have already lost the battle. |
| 2:37.8 | Really, DNS over HTTP is not going to make a big difference. |
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