Isabel Hardman's Sunday Roundup - 25/05/2025
Coffee House Shots
The Spectator
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🗓️ 25 May 2025
⏱️ 15 minutes
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Summary
Rayner defends Labour's winter fuel payments U-turn, and fends off suggestions that her leaked memo has anything to do with a future leadership bid. Meanwhile, as Nigel Farage prepares to outflank Labour on the left, Kemi Badenoch says Reform supporters don't know what they're voting for.
Produced by Joe Bedell-Brill.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to Coffee House Shots, the Spectator's Daily Politics Podcast. I'm Michael |
| 0:14.0 | Simmons and this is the Sunday Roundup. Kier-Starmer announced a partial U-turn on the winter |
| 0:19.2 | fuel payments this week, but the extent of the reversal is not yet clear. |
| 0:23.6 | Speaking to Laura Coonsberg, Angela Rayner said she couldn't guarantee that changes would be made in time for this winter. |
| 0:29.2 | Move on then to winter fuel because the government reversed some of its position, |
| 0:32.4 | having taken winter fuel allowance away from millions of pensioners. |
| 0:35.7 | Nigel Farage says he would bring back that benefit in full for every pensioner, will you? Well, he has to say how he's going to pay for these |
| 0:42.3 | things. Nigel Farage says a lot of things, but like on my employment rights bill, he voted against |
| 0:45.8 | it. Now, the Prime Minister said this week that he would like to see changes to that as the economic |
| 0:51.1 | situation improves. We've already seen four interest rates go down while |
| 0:56.7 | we've been in government and with the fastest growing economy in the G7. So if you've got more money, |
| 1:00.5 | will you restore it to everyone, every pensioner? Well, again, the Prime Minister set out that it |
| 1:04.7 | will be at a fiscal event. So that's for the Chancellor to outline. And it very much depends |
| 1:09.7 | on this state of the economy and how much that we've got. |
| 1:13.2 | And the different pressures. We've talked about different pressures already that we face, including housing. |
| 1:18.2 | Can you guarantee that it will be done whatever it is, whether you bring it into income tax for wealthier pensions or whether or not you set the threshold in a different place? |
| 1:27.3 | Can you guarantee to people watching who really want to know whether or not they're going to get |
| 1:31.2 | their money that it will be done in time for this winter? |
| 1:35.0 | Well, on your programme, I can't guarantee that because it has to come through a fiscal event |
| 1:39.0 | and the Chancellor. |
| 1:39.9 | You can't even guarantee that it'll be done in time for the winter. |
| 1:42.3 | I mean, isn't this a bit cack-handed? Because we had for months, Kirstama and Rachel Reeves and you sticking to that collective line, |
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