Michael Gove on Starmer vs the workers: why Labour needs to learn to love Brexit
Coffee House Shots
The Spectator
4.4 • 2.1K Ratings
🗓️ 24 May 2025
⏱️ 19 minutes
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Produced by Natasha Feroze and Patrick Gibbons.
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| 0:56.4 | I'm Natasha Froes and today I'm joined by the Spectator editor Michael Gove to talk about his cover piece on Starma versus the |
| 1:02.5 | workers, the real Brexit betrayal. Michael, to begin with, I thought it was very interesting to read |
| 1:08.5 | your perspective on why the left could and should back Brexit. |
| 1:13.3 | But before we get into that, I wondered, has this week brought back happy memories for you? |
| 1:18.2 | It's brought back very mixed memories, I have to say, because while there were aspects of the Brexit campaign that I did enjoy and people whom I enjoyed working with, |
| 1:28.8 | and I was very pleased by the result. The agonies that followed were certainly painful. |
| 1:35.5 | And of course, some of the debates and some of the personal consequences that were involved in Brexit were |
| 1:42.7 | painful for me and for others. And one of those |
| 1:45.8 | memories that you talked about is very specifically in 2019, just days before Theresa May ended up |
| 1:52.1 | resigning, you were faced with a situation where you had to appeal to the opposition to get |
| 1:57.4 | the Brexit deal over the line. Yes. So as viewers may recall, and they'll probably find it painful to recall this as well, when Theresa was trying to get the Brexit deal over the line. Yes. So as viewers may recall, and they'll probably find it |
| 2:02.2 | painful to recall this as well, when Theresa was trying to get her Brexit deal through, there were a |
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