Hello and welcome to Coffee House Shots, the Spectators' Daily Politics podcast. I'm

Isabelle Hardman and this is the Sunday Roundup.

In an interview with Laura Cunesburg this morning, Keir Starmer was keen to emphasize Labour's

commitment to change and reform. When Cunesburg pressed him on a few specific issues, however,

he deflected those questions as being the current government's problem and was reluctant to go

into any detail on Labour's spending plans. Instead, he insisted on fiscal responsibility,

the necessity of growing the economy and changes to the planning system.

So you say you need to do things very differently. Let's test out what you might do differently if you

were Prime Minister because there is an immediate problem at the moment with public sector pay.

So Rishi Sunak has offered doctors a 6% pay rise. They say no. He says no more talking. What would you do?

Well, this is the government's problem. They, as good as broke out public services, they've

created a situation in which wages have been stagnant for many years. But what would you do differently

in that situation? They need to sort out this mess. How? I would do this differently by growing

the economy. We have to grow, grow, grow. And you said that already. This is a specific question.

If you were Prime Minister right now, it's exactly the kind of problem that might face you,

a paid dispute with a big powerful union, the doctors say they will not accept it.

Rishi Sunak says no more negotiating. What would you do? Do you back the junior doctors or

do you back the Prime Minister? Well, we would be around the table negotiating and we would settle

this dispute. I think many people would say, why is it taken this long, even to have one step

towards progress? Because many people have had their operations cancelled. Many people have been

deeply affected by these strikes. Under the last Labour government, we settled disputes. We

didn't have, I mean, take the nursing dispute. You didn't have a national nursing dispute

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