Isabel Hardman's Sunday Roundup - 10/12/2023
Coffee House Shots
The Spectator
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🗓️ 10 December 2023
⏱️ 13 minutes
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Summary
On Wednesday Robert Jenrick resigned over the government's Rwanda legislation, so the focus this morning was on immigration. Jenrick says Sunak's bill is weak, Michael Gove says it's robust, and Liz Kendall says Labour have a better plan to cut legal immigration. Plus, Ukrainian First Lady Olena Zelenska makes a plea for continued support.
Produced by Joe Bedell-Brill.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to Coffey House Shots The Spectators Daily Politics podcast. I'm Isabel Hardman and this is the Sunday |
| 0:15.8 | roundup. Speaking to Laura Coonsburg, after resigning on Wednesday, former immigration |
| 0:21.1 | minister Robert Genrick was disparaging in his assessment of the government's new Rwanda legislation, claiming it was weak and wouldn't work. |
| 0:29.0 | Explaining his resignation, he said that he couldn't be the minister guiding that bill through Parliament. |
| 0:34.0 | Genrich implied he had a better understanding of the issue than the Prime Minister |
| 0:38.0 | and that a political choice had been made to bring forward a bill which wouldn't do the job. |
| 0:43.2 | He suggested that under the proposed legislation |
| 0:46.6 | the Rwanda scheme would be bogged down by migrants potential legal claims |
| 0:50.8 | and this would not act as an effective deterrent. |
| 0:53.8 | Why did you quit? |
| 0:54.8 | Well in government if you have profound disagreements with the direction of policy particularly |
| 1:00.3 | those that you are personally leading, it's right that you step away. |
| 1:04.4 | And on both illegal and illegal migration, |
| 1:07.8 | I felt that we were not heading in the right direction. |
| 1:10.7 | I couldn't be the minister who was guiding this critical bill through |
| 1:15.0 | parliament, recommending it to parliamentarians and to the public if I felt as |
| 1:20.4 | I do that it is a weak bill that won't work. |
| 1:23.8 | The Prime Minister though said that your resignation was based on what he described as a fundamental |
| 1:29.4 | misunderstanding of the situation. Now do you not understand the plans for Rwanda or does the |
| 1:36.0 | Prime Minister not understand the plans for Rwanda? Well I've immersed myself in this |
| 1:40.6 | issue more than anyone else in government. |
| 1:43.0 | In fact, the Prime Minister said just the other day that I was probably the minister who knows |
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