Hello and welcome to Coffee House shops The Spectators Daily Politics Podcast.

I'm Isabel Hardman and this is the Sunday Roundup.

In his first major interview in Downing Street, the Prime Minister told Laura Koonsburg

that his government would have to be unpopular to bring about change.

I am absolutely convinced that we will only deliver that change. I'm absolutely determined we will

if we do the difficult things now. I know they're unpopular, I know

they're difficult, of course they're tough choices. A note there you said you know

it's unpopular. Are you willing to be unpopular? We're going to have to be unpopular.

Popular decisions aren't tough, they're easy.

When we talk about tough decisions, I'm talking about tough decisions.

The things that last government ran away from, that governments traditionally run away from,

I'm convinced that because they've run away from

difficult decisions, we haven't got the change we need for the country.

Kistama also said the United States understood the UK's decision to suspend some arms exports to Israel

and hinted at increased support for Ukraine. You're expected to go to the White House

next week. Now it's no secret that your decision to suspend some arms sales to Israel

has not gone down very well across the Atlantic. It has not made the UK government

very popular with its closest ally, the United States. You're wrong about that.

We've been talking to the US. We've been talking to the US beforehand and

afterwards and they're very clear that they've got a different legal system and they

understand the decision that we've taken. So that's very clear. The reason I'm

actually going and having the visit is not about that at all. It's because the situation in Ukraine is

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