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Hello and welcome to Coffee House Shots, the Spectators' Daily Politics Podcast. I'm Isva Hardman,

and this is the Sunday Roundup. The Health Secretary Matt Hancock joined Andrew Ma in the studio this

morning, and the conversation soon turned to the Indian variant of the coronavirus, which has recently

been rebranded as the Delta variant by the World Health

Organisation. This variant has now been recognised by Public Health England as the UK's

dominant strain. Marr asks Hancock about how it could affect the government's roadmap to

unlocking on the 21st of June. Let's turn to the agonising choice ahead about the 21st of June. It's a really,

really difficult decision. I think people understand that now. With the information you've got,

how much more transmissible is the Delta variant? Well, the best estimate of the growth advantage,

as we call it, of the delta variant from SAGE is around 40%.

So that does make life more challenging for everybody,

and you've seen that the case rates have risen a little.

But the good news is that the hospitalisations,

the number of people arriving at hospital, is broadly flat,

and the majority appear to be those who have not had a vaccine at all, and only a very small minority of people

who've had both jabs. So what the best scientific advice I have at this stage is that after one jab,

it's not quite as effective against the new Delta variant,

but after both jabs, it is. So that's why it's so important that we drive through these

vaccinations and people come forward for their second jab. If the data turns bad,

would you delay the 21st of June openings? Well, we're absolutely open to doing that if that's what it needs to happen.

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