Hello and welcome to Coffee House Shots, the Spectator's Daily Politics Podcast.

I'm Isabel Hardman and this is the Sunday Roundup.

With less than four weeks to go until the UK is due to leave the European Union,

Sophie Ridge was joined by John MacDonald.

Labour has recently made headlines with its apparent Volt Fas on a second referendum.

The shadow chancellor explained rationale behind his party's new Brexit position.

Why should your constituents who voted out at the referendum really have the confidence to vote in other elections

if they feel that they vote could just be ignored?

Well, remember what we're doing at the moment.

We're abiding by, first of all, our manifesto commitment.

We said we'd respect the referendum, but we also said we wouldn't allow Theresa May to take us out of Europe

or the reckless deal, and we would not support no deal.

So what we're doing is exactly as our party conference unanimously decided, we're still arguing

for our proposal, which is a deal we think can protect jobs in the economy, and we're still

arguing if that doesn't go through, we should have a general election, but we've recognised

that actually if we have to to block no deal and to block a bad deal, well, we'll have to go back to the people themselves.

And with my constituents, I think they'll understand that because we can't allow a no deal or a bad deal to go through, that will affect their jobs and undermine our economy.

But we've been forced into this by Theresa May

delaying, running down the clock and not coming up with a compromise that we could all support.

Are you going to be whipping Labour MPs when you do put forward this amendment on a second referendum?

And what happens if any shadow ministers break that whip? Are they going to be sacked?

Well, normally we will whip and that'll be decided in the normal way by the chief whip

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