This is undaunted life a man's podcast. I'm your host, Kyle Thompson. Let's get into it. Brian Kramer and Isaac Tu'a Efe. How are y'all doing? I feel like I have to say it every time. Tawa, Fah. Tawa, Fah. Yeah. How did I say it? To what Fah To it. Way more accurate than most people do.

I feel like I'm doing the Haka every time I say your name, which is not like an actual thing. I like to greet him with it. Like, hey. Oh. You just get you. Yeah. There we go. And of course, people look at us really funny at church when we do things like that to each other. But, you know. You should make a Jesus and Jiu-Jitsu shirt that has the pronunciation of your name on it.

Yeah.

Just for no reason.

I thought you were going to see. things like that to each other. But, you know. You should make a Jesus and Jiu-Jitsu shirt that has the pronunciation of your name on it.

Yeah.

Just for no reason.

I thought you were going to say like Samoan tribal or something, which, but I like that. That's fine. Tribal? No, those are for armbands for rednecks. Like that, those are arm band tattoos. But no, we got the crew from Jesus and Jiu-Jitsu up in the studio.

Yeah, man.

Hey, I've been telling you guys, every time I travel now, I wear from Jesus and Jiu-Jitsu up in the studio. Yeah, man. Hey, I've been

telling you guys, every time I travel now, I wear my Jesus and Jiu-Jitsu shirt, I wear the black one with the white on it. And I've gotten more comments in the airport. Like, I had a pilot. Yeah. I know it wasn't a pilot. I may have been a pilot. He just goes, oh, nice shirt. And he asked me something about jujitsu. He didn't really know what it was, but he's like, hey, I know the Lord as well.

And it's just like it gives someone a, oh, nice shirt. And he asked me something about Jiu-Jitsu. He didn't really know what it was, but he's like, hey, I know the Lord as well.

And it's just like it gives someone a, it may as well say, ask me about Jesus. Yeah, right, right. But you get people that talk about all the time. So was that kind of like the point behind the subtle marketing and the very, very straightforward marketing? Yeah. No, no subtlety there.

No, so along with the founders of the ministry, so J.P. Denael, Stephen Little, Josh Schrofiger, a bunch of other guys to help me out. Right. We all worked together in the very beginning to get this thing going. And it was some of their idea to have Jesus be really big on the top. Jiu-Jitsu be really small. and it be kind of an emphasis on what's important in the whole thing. But man, from the beginning, it's been a massive, like it just draws eyes. And like you said, in the airport or Costco or at the gas station or whatever. I mean, I get people all the time to come up and say the same thing. Like, dude, that's cool. What's that about? Or my favorite question is, uh, how do those two things go

together? That's my favorite. Hey, I forget who said it. Because I would love to give them credit, but they were in this should be a tagline for you guys. But it was like, choke them out and then pray for you're just like yeah that's how you can explain it how those two things we've in together

that's right that's how we approach getting people closer to Jesus is like pure humility first, you know, and then as we, as we wake them up.

Yeah.

And like, oh, here, let me tell you about the gospel. Bring it death near death experience.

Always brings people closer to the Lord.

Yeah, they kind of like come back to and they're just like, oh, wow.

Okay.

Yeah, Jesus.

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