What's up everybody welcome back to active life radio on the shrug collective network. I'm Dr. Sean Pestuch. I'm your host and today we're joined by active life director of staff Dr. Ray Gorman again.

We're going to be talking about one of our star clients today. This is one of those guys who is very much your every day kind of

performer when it comes to physical performance. He's someone who lost a hundred pounds works out for the life of it not for the competitive nature of it.

He chooses to use well at least did the time crossfit as a modality. I think he still doesn't but of it now maybe Ray will know a little bit better when we talk.

But the idea of this episode is he had knee pain that had been with him for years. He had tried a litany of different things unsuccessfully and it was not because he was not all in.

This is the guy who goes all in on everything and today we're going to talk to you about the things that he was doing wrong.

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Dr. Ray Gorman live on the active life podcast. What's up guys good to be here. Always a pleasure Ray. We have Ray visiting us from Reno, Nevada.

I said Nevada right. Didn't I did say right that's impressive. I've been very few people do. It's for those you listening. It is Nevada not Nevada. Very good. Now you know.

Let's get right to it. Today we're going to talk about Vince. We can use Vince's name. He's done all kinds of he did a podcast with us himself.

He talked about us on another shrugged radio podcast. That's right. Unsolicited. He has done a professional testimonial with us. He's a fan. He sent his coaches through our immersion course.

Yeah. He's all in man. He is all in. So when he came to you. I remember he was someone who I talked to on the phone. And it was one of the situations where I was like, look man, you've had this pain for years.

You need this for at least a year. Absolutely. And that was music to my ears as a coach. Getting an athlete for a long period of time really gives us enough of a training life cycle to not have to rush through things and not have to miss steps along the way that typically are part of the problem.

Yeah. And what Ray is describing. There's a lot of people who come to work with us when they start off. They're not sure how long they need to be there. So they'll start with the month to month and hope that as soon as they're out of pain. This can be over with the problem with that becomes that when when people get out of pain.

It's just like being in the moment immediately before you were in pain. You're still in the danger zone. So having someone with us who was committed for an entire year was something that was is always music to the coaches years because they know that they can do things the right way, the full way and really help these people get a pain long term.

Absolutely. So for for VIN it really started back in 2014. He was on a really high volume squat cycle.

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