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Depresh Mode with John Moe

Is Whiteness a Mental Health Problem? Dr. Jonathan Mathias Lassiter Thinks So.

Depresh Mode with John Moe

Maximum Fun

Health & Fitness, John Moe, Interview, Comedy Interviews, Comedy, Mental Health

4.9854 Ratings

🗓️ 27 October 2025

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

He’s the author of the new book How I Know White People Are Crazy and Other Stories

Transcript

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0:00.0

If you go swimming in an area that is swarming with sharks, and please don't, but if you do,

0:05.9

and you develop a bunch of deep lacerations and missing body chunks, you probably won't be

0:12.8

very surprised. You'll probably think, well, yeah, I went where the sharks were. That's what sharks do.

0:17.8

You will know that the fault isn't in your swimming. It's what was around you.

0:24.4

If you take a barefoot walk in a big field with broken glass all over the place, and again,

0:30.1

don't, and you come away with cuts on your feet, it's not a big mystery how those got there.

0:36.3

It was the glass that was all over where you were walking.

0:40.3

The fault wasn't yours.

0:42.0

The fault wasn't in your footwork.

0:44.8

How about this one?

0:45.9

If you live in a society that discriminates against people based on race, ethnicity, gender, orientation, disability,

0:53.6

and you happen to be on the side of the

0:55.9

ledger that the system is designed to discriminate against, and you develop some mental health

1:02.3

issues as a result, maybe it's the system. Maybe the fault isn't in you. Or if you're anyone

1:09.5

living in a society built around having to defeat everyone

1:14.4

else, while everyone else tries to defeat you, think that might make you a little messed up in a way

1:21.1

that isn't your fault? It's depression mode. I'm John Moe. I'm glad you're here.

1:46.9

I've been thinking a lot lately about mental illness and how much of it is individual chemistry or genetic destiny, and how much is a rational response to the world we live in?

1:53.0

The whole, it's not you, it's this, I'm gesturing now to everything, idea.

1:59.5

How much is the world that we share, the world we don't share well or fairly,

2:02.8

to blame for what's going on with our brains.

2:08.1

Depression, anxiety, trauma response. Are these things happening because we view the world through distortion we call mental illness? Or are they happening because we see the world

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